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Posted On: Oct. 27 2010, 9:01 PM
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Weve been mixing a new song & would like to upload it here to get you guys views on it.
We have used ukccs,the uk copyright service to protect our songs before, not that we think everyone wating to pinch them, but we do put a lot of effort into them & that amount of love lavished makes them valuable to us.
Trouble is its expensive & i dont know how  efective it is anyway.
What do you all do or dont you bother?

Tina
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Skip to the previous post in this topic. Posted On: Oct. 27 2010, 11:03 PM

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I suppose we trust in the 'time/date stamp' of the up-load?
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Skip to the previous post in this topic. Posted On: Oct. 27 2010, 11:19 PM
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So are you saying that uploading them here is actualy a way of protecting songs? Thats interesting

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Skip to the previous post in this topic. Posted On: Oct. 27 2010, 11:41 PM
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I not entirely sure, but copyright is done by simply doing this.

[email protected] business or trade name 2010

For Example
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I could be wrong. I looked into it many years ago but old age and short memory you know.

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Skip to the previous post in this topic. Posted On: Oct. 27 2010, 11:51 PM
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We know as soon as you create something you own the copyright on it Paco but were taliking about protecting the copyright & that reqires some sort of proof you created it first, doesnt it?

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Skip to the previous post in this topic. Posted On: Oct. 27 2010, 11:58 PM

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Tina, from what I have learnt so far, your songs are yours and that's pretty much all the proof you need.

There is of course, the old 'post it to yourself, special delivery' concept, but in a court of law, that counts for very little.

My advice (for what it's worth) keep all your scrawlings on paper, anything you save on a computer will be dated and anything you upload will be dated and proof, record it as soon as possible and those recordings too will be proof, ultimately, you know your songs better than anyone else and THAT will stand up in court!

But...if 'Pink' decides to steel one of your songs, you got a fight on your hands...NOTHING stops that from being expensive and difficult ...and very flattering  :p
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Skip to the previous post in this topic. Posted On: Oct. 28 2010, 12:05 AM

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:agree: what she said.
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Skip to the previous post in this topic. Posted On: Oct. 28 2010, 12:34 AM
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thanks Ange for that, if any of us should know its probably you, as you seem to be  making a career from your music.
Saving the Copyright protection servic e money will mean i can afford dark chocolate all week again!  :O
Will upload the song tomoorrow & hey i'll send it to Pink aswell, lets see if she can afford it!

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Skip to the previous post in this topic. Posted On: Oct. 28 2010, 1:55 AM

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Your understanding is correct, at least for the USA, Tina.  The right vests as soon as you put the work into durable format - a recording, or sheet music.  But courts want evidence that it is yours, and originally yours.  There are lots of things that can function as evidence, but securing it from the appropriate legal entity is the way to go.  Here's what I do.  I put together giant albums full of songs, a couple hundred at a time, and call them things like "Tom's Greatest hits, vol 11," and then send them off.  It's cheap here, and that will cover the songs.
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Skip to the previous post in this topic. Posted On: Oct. 28 2010, 2:27 AM

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By uploading your song and sharing a link to it you are publishing it. The date of that publication can be important so find a way to document it (screenshots can be useful).

Any documentation you have of possession of the material can be useful so keep (originals) of all "ink on paper" relating to the material. This includes performances - "We appeared at the St. Barnabus Fete on April 15th 2001 and performed that song" can become relevant - especially if you can produce witnesses who attended the St. Barnabus Fete and can confirm that you did perform that song. So posters advertising your appearance there could be valuable.

Mailing a copy of the song to yourself is useless. I have six unsealed manila envelopes that I mailed to myself in the 1970s that I could stuff with all of U2's songs and seal and claim as my own.

All that said, you are wasting your time.

I'm sorry to say that I speak from experience. Enforcing copyright against a major corporation that has decided to take your material is an impossible task. If they want it, they can take it and the fact that you own it won't help you a bit.

It's sad but true.

The key is to make yourself valuable AS A PACKAGE. You're cute, you're workable AND you own the copyright to your songs - THAT will get you somewhere. Just owning the songs doesn't mean squat - they can take them with impunity as they wish. You can't afford to stop them.

The sad fact is that good material is cheap - write it, buy it, steal it - it's all the same. And corporations know that.
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