Forum: n-Track Studio Discussion Forum
Topic: New Strings Synthesizer
started by: LarryPoynor

Posted by LarryPoynor on Oct. 06 2010, 1:40 AM
How do I load in the new n-Track Strings Synthesizer?   Also the Vocal add in?

Thanks :D
Posted by bbrown on Oct. 06 2010, 2:38 AM
From the menu click Add Channel->Add New Instrument Channel->VSTi->n-Track Strings. Then add a blank midi track. Right-click the midi track and then click Properties. Select channel 16 from the Channel drop-down. Then in the Output port field select "Instrument plug-in n-Track Strings". Open the piano roll and click a piano key. You should hear sound from the synth. At this point you can use the piano roll grid to program the synth or use something like Bome's mouse keyboard to control the synth manually.
Posted by bbrown on Oct. 06 2010, 2:41 AM
For n-Vocals either add a blank audio track or load/record a new vocal track. Right-click the track and select Effects->n-Track->n-Track nVocal.
Posted by tilikato on Oct. 17 2010, 2:23 PM
Nice one the string synth - my first dive into midi, so much to my surprise I need some help. I followed the instructions in this thread and was able to create a functioning string ensemble in a song. I can edit velocities, move notes etc.

Now what I can't find is the way to mute the darn thing or make volume envelopes into the track.

Another thing is I can't find the string synth control panel after I've added the track. Would be nice to try different tone bar settings.

(Lost my password in the office so don't have to welcome me... I'm varakeef)
Posted by tilikato on Oct. 17 2010, 2:26 PM
I'm on build 2642, Motu 8pre, XP
Posted by TonyR on Oct. 17 2010, 3:04 PM
Hi Larry. Just in case? Before you can do the above, the synth and vocal effect need to be in your vst folder. Program files > FASoft > n-Track studio > VST Plug ins. Extract the in this folder.
Posted by tilikato on Oct. 17 2010, 3:25 PM
Quote: (tilikato @ Oct. 17 2010, 7:23 AM)

Now what I can't find is the way to mute the darn thing or make volume envelopes into the track.

Another thing is I can't find the string synth control panel after I've added the track. Would be nice to try different tone bar settings.

If I compare the situation to VST effect, if I double click it in the mixer window, it pops out and I can adjust it's controla. This String synth seems to be vanished for good.
Posted by tilikato on Oct. 17 2010, 3:57 PM
As long as I don't close the instrument I can adjust parameters, overall volume, but after that I can't find it and I can't adjust it.
Posted by tilikato on Oct. 17 2010, 4:51 PM
I was faster than you... there's that little hammer icon on the track properties. Clicking it makes the synth control panel alive.

So I'm cool now.

Just tell me how the volume envelopes work with midi channels?
Posted by bax3 on Oct. 17 2010, 6:35 PM
Editorial by a "stuck in analog"
Midi has always seemed awkward to me.  I wish I could select an instrument and have the program automatically place the track in place, instead I have to make a track, select a channel, select the instrument - it just gets confusing . . .
If only I had a full orchestra with several talented "sidemen" at my beck-and-call, then I would not need midi at all...
Bax
Posted by TonyR on Oct. 17 2010, 8:39 PM
Come on, bax - midi ain't no monster ???

tilikato! You can draw envelopes in the bottom window of the piano roll or convert the tracks to wav and use the timeline envelopes.
Posted by tilikato on Oct. 17 2010, 10:12 PM
Thanks, I try that!

(... and bax is right, midi is a monster... I only use it incognito)
Posted by varakeef on Oct. 20 2010, 2:17 PM
One more question... (and I'm back).

Now let's assume I get a midi keyboard and I want to add the notes in the pianoroll by playing it along with the base track.

So what is the procedure then:
I connect that to my midi input of my interface, right?

Then what? Let's assume that I have chosen the string synth and I have proceeded into point what bbrown instructed:

Quote: 

From the menu click Add Channel->Add New Instrument Channel->VSTi->n-Track Strings. Then add a blank midi track. Right-click the midi track and then click Properties. Select channel 16 from the Channel drop-down. Then in the Output port field select "Instrument plug-in n-Track Strings". Open the piano roll and click a piano key. You should hear sound from the synth.

Posted by bbrown on Oct. 20 2010, 3:19 PM
If you've got the string synth responding to your midi controller then you should simply be able to hit record and go at it. You won't see anything in the timeline as you play until you stop recording. Was actually playing around with that last night with SampleTank when I came to a realization..... I suck as a keyboard player. :-)
Posted by varakeef on Oct. 20 2010, 4:01 PM
Yeah, probably I too can put the notes more accurately by drawing them one by one.  :laugh:
Posted by TonyR on Oct. 20 2010, 7:56 PM
With n-T V6 you can click the dropdown on the left of the track timeline and choose 'add new midi track'. Choose the channel you want bearing in mind that n-T uses C10 for drums. Make sure you have the recording mode set to midi (top tool bar: piano, piano/mic, mic).
Where are you up to now varakeef - got the keyboard - up and running with the strings?
Posted by varakeef on Oct. 21 2010, 10:22 AM
I'm still in "draw the notes" phase... just feel a bit tempted to try a keyboard since I'm so happy I even got a sound from a midi stuff. But no, I don't have a keyboard yet.

But if I ever do my plan is to find the instructions from this thread I posted in.   :)
Posted by pingcat on Oct. 30 2010, 7:55 PM
Been trying this out as well.
With a brand new song project it works well, using a usb keyboard to play/record in real time. I'm not having the lag times and don't have to slide the recorded tracks over to get in sync like I did when I last tried.  But maybe this is because it is a new fresh project.  Maybe
older recorded projects still have the lag issues, I will need to try that again.
But as has been said, the volume envelopes on the midi tracks do not work.  So the only 2 ways around this are to either record the midi to an audio track and then do the envelope changes on the audio track, or "You can draw envelopes in the bottom window of the piano roll"?
TonyR, for the second one, is there a way to do this for a sustained single note?  Using the freehand velocity drawing tool only seems to impact the initial note, not the following sustain, for me.
Posted by TonyR on Oct. 30 2010, 9:49 PM
Hi Pingcat. Just grab a note and drag it around - left-click and hold the right hand edge of the note and drag it to any length - great fun:-)

How are the strings sounding? My daw is still dead.
Posted by TonyR on Oct. 30 2010, 9:51 PM
or lasso a bunch of notes and right click for props and or transpose.
Posted by pingcat on Oct. 30 2010, 10:42 PM
TonyR

Not fully following you, I can easily drag out the length of notes, but I have an ending note I want to fade to 0.  Without envelopes I think I need to either mix live or mix down the track to an audio track and then alter the envelopes of that.

The string sounds are useable, of course I'm no classical instrument expert, but I had the free download EastWest orchestra plugins on my old computer and I think they sounded better.  But when I went to my new system, I tried to reinstall the 64 bit freebie and it would not install, acted like it was corrupt, and you can no longer get the freebie from East/West.
Posted by TonyR on Oct. 30 2010, 11:03 PM
Sorry Pingcat - I'm with you now. If you have a mod' wheel on your keys, you can record a fade, in real-time - this will become a midi event.
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