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Posted On: Sep. 20 2005, 1:25 PM
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This came up on the board a while back. Just thought I'd see if anyone was using it now: http://www.har-bal.com/

Do a google and you'll find lots of very postive reviews. I'm quite tempted - I already use the demo to help spot EQ problems which I try and fix in N track, but I find the N track in built EQ so fiddly. The idea of sorting it all out there on the graph is appealing.

Any thoughts?

PS Yeah, I know use your ears and all that.. :D
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Skip to the previous post in this topic. Posted On: Sep. 20 2005, 3:41 PM
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I bought it a while back, and I know there are at least one or two others here that own it as well...

My results have been mixed, at best, though I suspect that I'm probably just not using it properly. I've mostly just loaded one of the reference files and adjusted the EQ Graph to roughly match it. I'm thinking it's probably better to be much more conservative in making adjustments - smoothing out any major peaks and valleys.

It certainly does what it claims to do, and I've had no crashes or any odd behavior from the program itself. It's not a miracle tool, but it's a decent tool. You'll still need to use your ears.





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Skip to the previous post in this topic. Posted On: Sep. 20 2005, 6:17 PM
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I use it regularly, though mostly as a tool to see where the problems are. It's easy to burn yourself with it. Getting a flat-ish EQ is good but you need to be familiar enough with the overall EQ to know whether or not there should be EQ in the dips or that the peaks really need to come down. I love it by the way.
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Skip to the previous post in this topic. Posted On: Sep. 20 2005, 8:23 PM
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My cat has hair balls.  Have not found any use for them musically.  Do you use them for percussion, melody, rhythm?..... please elaborate.
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Skip to the previous post in this topic. Posted On: Sep. 21 2005, 2:04 AM
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I've been looking at this for some time, now.. How do you use it.. ?? On a per-track Basis? or do you use it on group mixes? Do you think it's worth the bucks?

Bill..
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Skip to the previous post in this topic. Posted On: Sep. 21 2005, 3:00 AM
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Use it on the final mix as a mastering tool, usually. I've used it occasionally on individual tracks if there was a peak I could hear but couldn't find easily by sweeping the EQ and I wanted to nuke it. Some times peaks like that might be more than on frequency. This helps with that, too.

The demo works pretty well, but limits playback to 8 bits. I don't remember if it saves at all, but even if it did 8 bit files aren't the best for your final mix....you think? The graphics in the demo are full featured. It's definitely a useful demo (unless there's more disabled than there used to be).
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Skip to the previous post in this topic. Posted On: Sep. 21 2005, 1:50 PM
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Quote (phoo @ Sep. 20 2005,11:17)
I use it regularly, though mostly as a tool to see where the problems are.

So did you go ahead and buy it? I mean I already do this with the demo version. Just wondered if you thought it was worth spalshing out for.
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Skip to the previous post in this topic. Posted On: Sep. 21 2005, 3:58 PM
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He bought it  :)
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Skip to the previous post in this topic. Posted On: Sep. 21 2005, 6:40 PM
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Quote (woxnerw @ Sep. 20 2005,19:04)
I've been looking at this for some time, now.. How do you use it.. ?? On a per-track Basis? or do you use it on group mixes? Do you think it's worth the bucks?

Bill..

IIRC, it is stand alone only - they worked on a vst version of it, but ran into too many limitations.  that's the only reason I have not bought it, really.
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Skip to the previous post in this topic. Posted On: Sep. 21 2005, 8:35 PM
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Quote (woxnerw @ Sep. 20 2005,19:04)
I've been looking at this for some time, now.. How do you use it..    ??   On a per-track Basis?    or do you use it on group mixes?     Do you think it's worth the bucks?  

            Bill..

It's a stand-alone program designed to  be used as a mastering tool - to adjust the EQ of a single .wav file.

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